Clark Baker Makes Admission That Destroys His Credibility

I love when Mr. Baker gets on a roll at one of his websites or on facebook or in the comment section of an article or website discussing HIV. This time Mr. Baker has outdone himself and given me an early Christmas present straight from the arms of baby Jesus. On December 12th Mr. Baker left a string of comments at this military website discussing the case of Sgt David Gutierrez that lead the moderator to close the comments because they were so wildly off-topic.

Mr. Baker goes through the same, old, tired litany of conspiracy drivel that has become a staple of his rhetoric. I will not enumerate them here as you can read them for yourself at the link. However, I found several places where Mr. Baker proves that he is not an objective, unbiased investigator but has an ingrained theory that completely ignores the established science. Most importantly I found several specific statements where he not only contradicts himself in a big way, but he also exposes his extreme bias and therefore his hypocrisy. These contradictions clearly highlight that Mr. Baker has an agenda to perpetuate his AIDS Denial via the court system.

In his first comment at 1:16 pm, Baker writes these two statements:

In the numerous military cases that the Office of Medical & Scientific Justice (OMSJ) has assisted in, we found that NONE of the accused HIV+ servicemembers were ever competently tested or diagnosed for HIV.”


“In the numerous cases where OMSJ examined the blood of these servicemembers, OMSJ found no evidence of clinical symptoms (in their medical record) or HIV in their blood.”

Then at 7:39 pm Mr. Baker gives this answer to another commenter who asks what tests should be used to detect HIV:

“With regard to what test a real investigator would approve to detect HIV, that doesn’t exist because the first proof doesn’t exist.”

That is what Oprah would call and Ah Ha moment. It is no wonder then that Baker and his “experts” with OMSJ and the HIV Innocence Group always come to the same conclusion with each and every examination of a client’s medical records. It should also be noted that Baker says “…OMSJ examined the blood of these servicemembers…”  I for one would love to know how Baker examined this blood and where the results are. Perhaps we get a glimpse of this in his next comment.

At 8:14 pm Mr. Baker further contradicts himself as well as opening the door for many more questions:

“Several years ago, OMSJ conducted a series of experiments using blood and cultured HIV.  We drew samples of my blood, spun it, and spiked it with the cultured HIV, which was easily found by using electron microscopy (EM).”

Now Mr. Baker is claiming that he has worked with “cultured HIV” and yet there are no tests for HIV because there is no proof that HIV exists. It all so convoluted, contradictory and ridiculous. But let’s look a little further at Baker’s statement regarding these supposed tests with cultured HIV:

“We then drew samples of blood from allegedly HIV+ patients, sending 5ml for viral load testing and the rest for EM.  We found that – even with viral loads of 3 million per ml – there was no evidence of HIV in the blood…using PCR.”

Now Mr. Baker says that PCR is an acceptable testing methodology for HIV whereas above he says that no tests are adequate to test for HIV because there is no proof that HIV exists. OH, but Baker does say he has seen HIV with an Electron Microscope and he has worked with cultured HIV…and yet HIV has never been proven to exist! This clearly demonstrates that Mr. Baker will say whatever he wants in any situation no matter how contradictory it is.

I will not attempt to deconstruct all of his comments as there are just too many things that meander aimlessly. But you really should do yourself a favor and read his analogy of HIV testing to a cop and a drunk driver. It’s priceless.

Let me just leave you with one thought that shows just how ridiculous and contradictory Baker can be. Baker has some harsh words for virologists at the end of his 1:16 comment:

“But when Americans are finally aware of the facts regarding HIV, HEP C, Ebola, H1N1, and other gov’t/pharmaceutical marketing schemes, virologists will find their rightful place in fading strip mall storefronts, between the astrologers and palm readers.” emphasis mine

But then Baker ends his entire three comment diatribe with a quote from the Father of Virology, implicitly calling him a “reputable man”.

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