Viral Forensics White Paper is Not Worth the Paper it is Printed On: Part II in a Series

In this post I am going to examine and deconstruct the White Paper written by David Rasnick to scam potential clients into using explain to potential clients the Electron Microscopy service offered by Viral Forensics (VF).

A white paper is an authoritative report or guide informing readers in a concise manner about a complex issue and presenting the issuing body’s philosophy on the matter. It is meant to help readers understand an issue, solve a problem, or make a decision. The initial British term concerning a type of government-issued document has lately proliferated taking a somewhat new meaning in business, which is closer to a form of marketing presentation, a tool for persuading customers and partners and promoting a product or viewpoint. (all bolding mine)

I have never read a white paper before so I am not sure about the proper format. However, I would assume the paper should appear familiar to the audience to which it is geared. In that respect, Rasnick’s strategy to write his white paper in a format similar to a research paper is brilliant. But Rasnick’s audience is not necessarily scientists, doctors and those in the healthcare industry. That is another reason why Rasnick’s strategy to cloak this non-sense in the format of a research paper is so smart; he is hoping to fool normal people into using this “service” by giving the information the appearance of legitimacy. Unfortunately for Rasnick, his paper falls apart under professional scrutiny.

A hallmark of all scientific research papers is the footnote citation which has several important purposes:

“…to uphold intellectual honesty (or avoiding plagiarism), to attribute prior or unoriginal work and ideas to the correct sources, to allow the reader to determine independently whether the referenced material supports the author’s argument in the claimed way, and to help the reader gauge the strength and validity of the material the author has used.”

Mr. Rasnick liberally peppers his white paper with footnoted citations. However, upon close inspection, all of his citations are woefully deficient. Their deficiency falls into at least one of the following categories:

  • A They are completely untruthful and/or inaccurate.
  • B They do not support the cited statement.
  • C They refer back to another AIDS Denialist.
  • D They are misleading and disingenuous.

To prove these categories, I will provide the statement, the (supposedly) supporting citation and the truth.

Let’s start with the last citation which is both completely untrue as well as misleading (categories A & D). It is the perfect example to prove that the service marketed by Rasnick is bull-pucky.

I. Statement:

Viral Forensics LLC offers the only forensic examination of blood plasma samples to confirm the absence or presence of viral pathogens. Being 100 times more powerful than a conventional light microscope, TEM can make any viral pathogen visible. TEM can easily confirm the presence of HPV (50–60 nm), Epstein–Barr virus (120–180 nm), HIV (100–120 nm), Ebola (700–1400 nm), etc. In light of the shortcomings, abuse, and unreliability of ELISA, WB, PCR, Flow Cytometry, and phylogenetic technologies, forensic TEM is available to physicians and patients to visually confirm the presence or absence of viral pathogens before committing to unnecessary regimens of care and toxic pharmaceutical drugs.12

Citation 12:

Pharmaceutical critics of TEM counter that HIV is not found in blood, which conflicts directly with marketing claims that PCR tests detect viral particles in blood.


Nowhere will you find a legitimate critic make the statement “HIV is not found in blood.”  Quite the contrary. What you will find are statements about the required concentration of HIV that must be present in whole blood. Like this one from the Father of Electron Microscopy, Hans Gelderbloom:

Historically, electron microscopy has served as an effective method to identify viral agents of infection. However, the use of electron microscopy as a diagnostic tool is limited by its requirement for a high concentration of particles in the clinical sample. The limit of detection for diagnosis of a virus by electron microscopy is widely accepted as 10^6 -10^8 particles/ml.1 For HIV-1 patients, a “high” viral load may range from 10^4 – 10^6 HIV RNA copies/ml. Because each HIV particle carries 2 copies of the viral genome, 1×10^6 copies/ml would translate to 5×10^5 particles/ml, placing, in many instances, the positive detection of virus outside of the detection limit of electron microscopy. Another consideration is that although HIV can be transmitted through blood and blood products, the viral burden in an infected individual is found primarily in the lymphatic tissue, not in the blood (HIV in the blood may represent just 2% of the total viral burden). Finally, the detection of HIV in blood by electron microscopy may be further complicated by the structural pleomorphism the virus displays.

This is the same response I posted in June 2014 when I deconstructed the abysmal Electron Microscope research paper by AIDS Denialst Andrew Maniotis. And yet the AIDS Deniers are still parroting the same “facts” that have been refuted time and again.

II. Statement: (I broke this paragraph down into two parts to deal with each untruth properly.)

While the development of biological testing has made many advances in the detection, diagnosis, and treatment of infectious diseases, FDA package inserts that come with the widely used ELISA, Western Blot (WB), and polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests clearly describe the unreliability of such testing.1 (bolding mine)

Further, the use of Flow Cytometry (to count CD4 cells) and phylogenetics (to identify the DNA pedigree of the suspected virus) is still too unreliable for FDA approval.2

Citation 1:

Although polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is a reliable technology, its application in the detection of so-called “viral load” of alleged pathogens like HIV has more to do with marketing than science. Comments by PCR inventor Kary Mullis PhD explain further at

Citation 2:

See Nancy Banks MD The Use of Flow Cytometry for CD4+ T Cell Counts in HIV Testing, THE OFFICE OF MEDICAL & SCIENTIFIC JUSTICE (OMSJ), Jan 2012.


Not only is the statement completely untrue, it is also ridiculous. This link to the FDA website has a list of all the FDA approved HIV test kits. All of them describe the tests as being incredibly reliable for both sensitivity and specificity. I should also note that AIDS Denialists claim that the package inserts state they are not approved for the purpose of diagnosis. This is also untrue and each insert clearly states: For in vitro diagnostic use only. AIDS Denialists do not seem to understand the diagnostic algorithm of ELISA + Western Blot which explains the near-perfect degree of both sensitivity and specificity.

Citation 1 fulfills deficiencies B & D. Not only was the quote about PCR viral load being “more marketing than science” never uttered by Kary Mullis, and therefore does not support the statement (B), it is also misleading (D) because, ironically, the rambling statement by Mullis is about his elusive search for that one, sole, singular “scientific reference to support a statement I had just written: ‘HIV is the probable cause of AIDS.'” This is ironic because my entire post right now is about scientific citations to support important statements.

BTW, there is no disease (or any scientific discovery) that has one, singular, definitive research paper that proves it’s existence. NONE! That is NOT how science works. Anything that is proven in science is done so with the Scientific Method which not only requires, but is dependent upon, the validation by other scientists who duplicate and repeat the exact procedure step, by step, by step and come up with the same, exact results!

Citation 2 fulfills deficiency C in that it refers back to the work of another AIDS Denialist. Which AIDS Denialist authored this particular bit of buffoonery is interesting because it was originally attributed to Clark Baker only. After I wrote two separate posts debunking the science, (Part I here and Part II here) Nancy Banks was added as second author. Now, Nancy Banks is listed as the only author. I have no idea why we should accept Nancy Banks as knowledgeable about Flow Cytometry when her education and experience is that of an OB/GYN doctor. There is no citation to show that Dr. Banks has ever used Flow Cytometry herself nor is there any citation showing Dr. Banks’ education in said technology.

III. Statement:

In contrast to these tests, Transmission Electron Microscopy (TEM) has been the “gold standard” for viral detection and characterization since the 1930s. Unlike the ELISA, WB, and PCR tests, the undirected “open view” of TEM provides the rapid, and objective detection, identification, and quantification of any virus present in a person’s plasma, pustules, sputum, urine, feces, and tissues.


Surprisingly there is NO citation for the above statement which DEMANDS proper citation. Dr. Rasnick can not make such a bold statement about TEM being“the ‘gold standard’ for viral detection and characterization since the 1930s” and expect people to take him at his word.


Actually, EM is quite limited in the identification of virus. It can not identify a virus past the Family level:

“EM, though it may not be able to identify a virus beyond the family level, at least points the way for more specific identification by other methods such as biochemical assays for specific pathogens.”

“Family” is one of the seven designations within the Taxonomy naming system in the Biological Sciences. Here are the designations from broadest to most narrow:

  1. Kingdom
  2. Phylum
  3. Class
  4. Order
  5. Family
  6. Genus
  7. Species

HIV is Classified thusly:

  • Family: Retroviridae
  • Genus: Lentivirus
  • Species: Human Immunodeficiency Virus

So if TEM can only identify down to the Family level and HIV is two levels LOWER, then how can TEM be the “gold standard” of detection?

IV. Statement:

This white paper presents a concise explanation of TEM and its usefulness in verifying the presence of suspected pathogens reported by less accurate technologies. More importantly, we propose the scientifically indisputable and cost-effective solution of employing TEM to confirm the presence or absence of viral pathogens.3

Citation 3:

While this White Paper often uses HIV tests as an example, the same technology and limitations applies in the testing of HPV, HCV, Ebola, and other pathogens.


First of all, Citation 3 is not a citation at all, but a wide-ranging, blanket-definition that shows just how lazy and pathetic the Viral Forensics service is in challenging tried and true diagnostic testing modalities. Also, and this can not be over-stated: Dr. Rasnick never cites nor proves that other “technologies” are “less accurate”.

Secondly, I have already shown the extreme limitations “…of TEM and its usefulness in verifying the presence of suspected pathogens…” by proving that EM is limited to the “Family” level of taxonomy, the Biological Naming System.

Lastly, I have proven that this Viral Forensics White Paper is NOT “the scientifically indisputable and cost-effective solution of employing TEM to confirm the presence or absence of viral pathogens.”

The White Paper of Viral Forensics is so lugubrious and loaded with so much misinformation that this post is already bordering on 2,000 words. I will have to stop for now and finish this post at a later date as Part III.

Jason Alexander Young: Ex-Client of Clark Baker Arrested Again. What is Clark Baker’s Culpability?

I have written two separate posts about the saga of Jason Alexander Young. This will be my third. Mr. Young was the first “client” that Clark Baker attempted to provide proof that his “group” was beneficial in helping. Mr. Young has now been arrested again in Georgia for 7 counts of Reckless Endangerment after spending time in prison in Aiken, SC for the same offense.

My first post was about the original plea deal and was supported by court documents and news articles.

My second post was about my direct correspondence with Mr. Young via email and the telephone after Mr. Young discovered my original post about 3 years after his release. The second post showed just how much Mr. Young believed that Clark Baker’s involvement was crucial in securing his plea deal. In that post I provided Mr. Young’s complete comment to me which spurred my phone conversation with Mr. Young. The complete, unaltered comment is here. (All bolding in mine. All bad grammar and punctuation belong to Mr. Young)

Jason A. Young
Submitted on 2014/08/11 at 6:36 pm

“My name is Jason Young and I am the defendant mentioned in this case. I am sending you this comment while I sit in from of my bank here in Georgia. Not from a prison cell. Now i have made it a point not to look on the Internet since I was released from prison but my new wife text me this link for me to read. I ask you to please remove this page and I will tell you why. You are wrong. I sat in Aiken County Jail for over 10 months, housed in solitary confinement the entire time, only allowed out of my small cell for 1 hour a day all while the courts denied my fast and speedy trial because they said their docket was to full to accommodate. My daughter, who I love with all my heart and have even worked out to me getting for 2 weeks a month with her mother was 6 months old when I was arrested. Her mother is the one who started the investigation because we were fighting over custody. Long story short, I am a Freemason, member of Phi Beta Sigma, spoke at different churches in the area, cub scout leader and coached kids soccor. Even though I was well known in the community I did not take a plea deal of “no contest” to spare anyone embarrassment. My attorney (Aaron Walsh) did not give the affidavits to the prosecution until 3 days before they offered the plea deal. And yes, my attorney told me that I would be home by Christmas. All I thought is that I’m not going into a courtroom and saying that I’m guilty of something I’m not and the paper that my attorney gave me even had a release date of December 12, 2011 if I can remember. Aaron told me that I can fight this once I get out through a PCR. Now being that I have never been in this situation before I believed everything he told me. I should not have become I took the plea as instructed and was not out by Christmas. All and all I only did a year and five months in prison. But when someone is housed in solitary confinement for no reason other then being trained by the military to escape, they would do anything they can to get their lives back. Anything… If it was not for Clark Baker my life would have been over with. I owe everything to him. But to say the solicitor offered the plea to spare the so called victims (none of witch had tested positive) is so wrong. The solicitor has tried a case just like mine 5 years before that and wanted to make a name for herself. She told my daughters mother that they were no interested in a plea deal because I was an animal that should have been stopped. That was told to her 2 weeks before the plea deal. So what is the difference between that moment and the deal???? The affidavits… So please do not sit in the outsiders point of view and act as though you were riding shotgun in the car with me. If anyone knows the truth, I would. So with all due respect sir, you are wrong… And don’t try and judge me due to this so called crime spree when even if someone does have HIV, they are no different then you or I. They are normal people who just want to be treated the same as others. On ALL levels. If they don’t disclose their status to their partner they are ethically wrong. But it has no place in any court room. Just like have hepatitis C is not a crime not to disclose then so should hiv. By allowing this to remain a crime to telling people that they are not personally responsible for their own health. When it’s your responsibility to protect yourself. Not someone else. Thank you for your time and understanding.”

Mr. Young has now been arrested a second time for sleeping with women and not disclosing his HIV Positive status. Less than two weeks before his arrest, Mr. Young left the following comment on my blog:

Jason Young
Submitted on 2015/08/04 at 2:26 pm

“All of this about Clark Baker is a lie. I have been out of jail for a few years and have put my life back together after this ordeal. I have been married now over a year and have a child on the way. Both my wife and child are STILL negative. Clark Baker saved my life. As for the plea. Let someone keep you in solitary confinement for over 10 months, only allowing you an hour a day to take a shower, watch tv, write letters, read letters, use the phone, clean your cell and exercise. Then back in your cell you go. Imagine the only thing you look forward to is meal time. All this after serving your country. You would have taken a plea to if it ment getting out 2 less then 2 months so that you can hold your 1 year old child again. Now i have already spoken to you over the phone about what I went through and what happened. Why you still post things like this about Clark is besides me. Either way, you talk about the truth. Then tell the truth.”

There are many things about these two comments that stand out for me (and I have highlighted them) and show why Mr. Baker has exhibited an undue influence on Mr. Young that may have contributed to Mr. Young’s reckless behavior.

Before Mr. Baker became involved in Mr. Young’s life, Mr. Young understood the ramifications of his behavior. Mr. Young was adhering to his medical treatment regimen. He understood the science and the positive impact on his health. However, after his experience with Clark Baker, Mr. Young stopped believing in the science of HIV and the medication that would save himself, his wife and his unborn child. After Clark Baker’s undue influence, Mr. Young has put himself, his wife, his children and countless women whom he seduced via social media at unnecessary risk. Mr. Young is a grown adult who has lived through this horror before. His own words above tell the real-life truth of the horror he experienced:

  • I sat in Aiken County Jail for over 10 months, housed in solitary confinement the entire time, only allowed out of my small cell for 1 hour a day…
  • Let someone keep you in solitary confinement for over 10 months, only allowing you an hour a day to take a shower, watch tv, write letters, read letters, use the phone, clean your cell and exercise. Then back in your cell you go. Imagine the only thing you look forward to is meal time. All this after serving your country.

Mr. Young has either forgotten or chose to ignore these obscene realities and decided to supplant his real-life experiences with Mr. Baker’s fantasy of lies and bullshit. This denial is the only thing that can explain why Mr. Young has chosen to dive head first into a life of misery and possible death for himself, his wife, his children and the women to whom he has used to his fulfill his own selfish biological urges.

And Mr. Baker’s culpability can not be ignored in any future criminal charges.

Viral Forensics: Another OMSJ Scam Venture – Part I

When I decided to deconstruct Viral Forensics, the latest fraud being perpetrated on the general public by AIDS Denialists Clark Baker and David Rasnick, the hardest part was deciding where to start. Their website offers up a plethora of lies that beg to be corrected. I decided to start with the name:

Viral Forensics; A Private Investigation Agency.

The first part, Viral, is self explanatory. The “service” claims to use Electron Microscopy as a tool to scan whole blood to look for a myriad of different viruses, although it is really just a new, clever way to perpetuate their AIDS Denialist agenda. The second part, Forensics, was puzzling. No where on the website will you find any mention of “solving crimes”, “courts of law” or anything having to do with the legal justice system. Nor does the site say how this “service” could be used in any type of “investigation” whatsoever, despite the fact that the words “Private Investigation Agency” make up 60% of the name. The word “Forensics” in the name of the company is just a clever way to try and avoid California Business and Professions Code Section 1241(b):

1241.  (a) This chapter applies to all clinical laboratories in
California or receiving biological specimens originating in California for the 
purpose of performing a clinical laboratory test or examination, and to all persons
performing clinical laboratory tests or examinations or engaging in clinical 
laboratory practice in California or on biological specimens originating in California,
except as provided in subdivision (b).
   (b) This chapter shall not apply to any of the following clinical
laboratories, or to persons performing clinical laboratory tests or
examinations in any of the following clinical laboratories:
   (1) Those owned and operated by the United States of America, or
any department, agency, or official thereof acting in his or her
official capacity to the extent that the Secretary of the federal
Department of Health and Human Services has modified the application
of CLIA requirements to those laboratories.
   (2) Public health laboratories, as defined in Section 1206.
   (3) Those that perform clinical laboratory tests or examinations
for forensic purposes only.
   (4) Those that perform clinical laboratory tests or examinations
for research and teaching purposes only and do not report or use
patient-specific results for the diagnosis, prevention, or treatment
of any disease or impairment of, or for the assessment of the health
of, an individual.
   (5) Those that perform clinical laboratory tests or examinations
certified by the National Institutes on Drug Abuse only for those
certified tests or examinations. However, all other clinical
laboratory tests or examinations conducted by the laboratory are
subject to this chapter.

In other words, Baker and Rasnick are breaking the law trying to avoid the law via strict regulations such as CLIA (Clinical Laboratory Amendments) and CAP (College of American Pathologists) that apply to other labs handling human blood products containing potentially infectious agents. Once again Clark Baker believes that he is above the law. And he is not shy about stating it:

“Because we are not a diagnostic laboratory, Viral Forensics is not subject to the limitations set by the College of American Pathologists (CAP)…”

When they state right on their website that “we are not a diagnostic laboratory…” they are outright lying!

“Has a clinician told you that you are infected with HIV, HPV, Hepatitis C, or other infectious disease?  How certain are you that the diagnosis (bolding mine) was accurate?”

“TEM is the ONLY reliable way to establish whether HIV or other pathogens are present in your blood.”

“Few doctors are aware of these cross-reactions and even fewer rule them out when ordering ELISA, Western Blot, or PCR tests to “diagnose”  (bolding mine) patients.  Transmission electron microscopy (TEM) is the only technology available to visually confirm the presence or absence of pathogens in human blood.   If you have questions about your blood test results, contact Viral Forensics for an optical examination of your blood samples.”

All of those examples prove that their “service” is strictly meant to diagnose…or, in their minds, “correct” a false diagnosis. And when a laboratory blatantly says that they already know the outcome of their tests, you really should see that as a huge red flag that their “services” are not objective. And objectivity is a hallmark of a credible, reliable laboratory.

And their Disclaimer should be another huge, red flag to anyone thinking about utilizing this “service”. The disclaimer proves the hypocrisy and outright bullshit of this joke-of-a-service. At the disclaimer you will find that they bend over backwards to protect themselves from the obvious lies they state as fact on the rest of their website. Their disclaimer is truly a melange of contradictions to behold as well as lifting directly from B&P Code Section 1241(b):

“The medical information on this site and linked websites are provided as an information resource only, and is not to be used or relied on for any diagnostic or treatment purposes. This information is not intended to be patient education, does not create any patient-physician relationship, and should not be used as a substitute for professional diagnosis and treatment.

Please consult your health care provider before making any healthcare decisions or for guidance about a specific medical condition.  Viral Forensics LLC expressly disclaims responsibility, and shall have no liability, for any damages, loss, injury, or liability whatsoever suffered as a result of your reliance on the information contained in this site. Viral Forensics LLC does not endorse specifically any test, treatment, or procedure mentioned on the site.

By visiting this site you agree to the foregoing terms and conditions, which may from time to time be changed or supplemented by Viral Forensics LLC.  If you do not agree to the foregoing terms and conditions, you should not enter this site.”

There are way too many lies and blatant bullshit to devote to one post. My next posts will deal with:

Part II: Viral Forensics’ “white paper”. A white paper is written in the style of a peer reviewed science paper. In actuality, it is nothing more than a marketing ploy. This will be quite delicious to deconstruct.

Part III: Why EM is not an appropriate application for HIV. And don’t be fooled, HIV is really the only virus that Viral Forensics is concerned with.

Part IV: The criminal cases using Electron Microscopy in the defense of HIV+ persons charged with reckless endangerment. These were cases supported by the HIV Innocence Group that has been defunct for 18 months thanks to my meticulous documentation of the lies of said group on this very website. (And why I was sued by Clark Baker in a Texas Federal Court. BTW, I won the case. Oh, yeah, and I won the appeal. And it cost Mr. Baker at least $150K.)

Celia Farber & James Murtagh: The Irony of Common Ground

Celia Farber recently wrote an incredibly moving and poignant essay about the traumas of her childhood that manifested in decades-long deep depression and sleepless nights. If you have not read it, I highly recommend it. Ms. Farber courageously details just how depression and sleeplessness ruined her life for years.

I am not writing this post to discuss the specifics of Ms. Farber’s ordeal, but rather to discuss the vehicles of her salvation: Dr. Brooks and ketamine. Ms. Farber does not specifically say so, but Dr. Brooks must be a sleep specialist. This is ironic because Dr. James Murtagh is also a sleep specialist (as well as Pulmonary Specialist) who sometimes uses ketamine in his sleep practice. Back in 2011 Dr. Murtagh was the director of three sleep labs in Cincinnati until Clark Baker reignited his harassment.

Ms. Farber and Dr. Murtagh have a somewhat confrontational past, to say the least. However, after reading this essay and the horrible ordeal she went through, I wonder how she would feel about Clark Baker’s incessant harassment of Dr. Murtagh’s employment over the past ten years if she knew that Dr. Murtagh could be the vehicle to others’ salvation. I wonder how many people have suffered much the same horrible ordeal as Ms. Farber and have been denied the salvation she received as a direct result of Clark Baker’s harassment. And if Ms. Farber were made aware of this, would she appeal to her friend Clark Baker to finally end his childish behavior and let Dr. Murtagh treat other people like Ms. Farber?

I have often said that those of us engaged in the “debate” regarding the validity of the science of HIV probably have more in common than we would like to acknowledge. This truth was never more evident than by the fact that Jonathan Barnett and I, once long-time bitter rivals, acknowledged our similarities and buried the proverbial hatchet. We have since engaged in many civil discussions about our differences and have even met in person and had a nice lunch.

Now through Ms. Farber’s candid essay we can see that a person she considers to be a bitter rival could have actually helped her many years ago. And now that this truth is being acknowledged publicly on this blog, it would be a nice, humane gesture if Ms. Farber would contact Mr. Baker and ask him to let bygones be bygones and stop his harassment of a man who has the potential to help many people just like her.

Perhaps we can all take a minute to think about the humanity of our rivals before lashing out. Perhaps we can start a new social medium to engage with one another in a thoughtful, rational manner instead of name-calling in a vacuum.

David Crowe is Pimping for Viral Forensics

On August 6th David Crowe started a thread at the ReThinking AIDS facebook page to survey his readers. Mr. Crowe was on a fishing expedition to find out how much money people would pay to have their blood scanned by an Electron Microscope:

Serious question. If you could get a series of electron microscope photos of your blood, with appropriate controls, probably showing you had no virus in your blood, would you pay $1000 plus or minus $500 for the set plus a report? Reply here or privately.

The question by itself is interesting for several reasons:

First, I wonder why Crowe is being so cagey and not coming right out and telling his readers this is for the new Baker/Rasnick joint, Viral Forensics. And why is Crowe limiting his discussion to HIV when Viral Forensics claims to be able to find ANY and ALL virus in blood.

The second thing that comes to mind is why are Baker and Rasnick using Crowe to find out how much to charge for their service? I would think that before they launched their slick website they would have a fully completed and comprehensive business plan. They should have performed their due diligence and should know precisely what their goods and services are worth in the marketplace. The truth is, what they are selling is just another one of Baker’s grifts or scams. Their service is completely useless in the marketplace. I will write more about that later.

Lastly, and most tellingly, Crowe admits this service is rubbish. He writes: “…probably showing you had no virus in your blood…”  Those 9 words prove there is no objectivity in the tests performed at Viral Forensics. Well, those words and the “white paper” found on their website as well as every other tab at the Viral Forensics website, but I will discuss all this in detail in the next week or so.

The responses by the readers of RA are the most interesting. (I will copy/paste the full thread at the bottom.) Most of them are dead set against any testing, EM or otherwise, because for so many years they have been fed the notion that HIV is not real because it has never been properly isolated or purified. And because of this lack of proper isolation, there is no test adequate. And this falsity has been fed to them for 30 years by the very people who are now telling them: “Forget all that; we’ve changed our minds; follow us off this new cliff, but first give us $1,500! I swear this is for real! This is the Gold Standard!”

But David Crowe, being the Persistent Pimp that he is, digs in and tries to sway the minions:

David Crowe This has been used in court before and is compelling evidence that a high viral load does not mean a lot of virus. I’d like people to think about this seriously. And, for people who think that finding nothing means nothing, it is possible to have a control sample using laboratory particles of the right size. If those can be detected it proves that HIV would also be detected if present.
David Crowe If there is a control sample showing particles, and a real sample not showing particles, why would you need multiple samples taken over a period of time?
David Crowe Peter Capainolo, the experience so far is that particles of the HIV size and shape cannot be detected in fresh blood, but can be detected when blood is spiked with particles of the expected size and shape, meaning that the techniques are not missing them.
David Crowe Richard Jannaccio the spiked particles are spiked in particles per unit volume. And viral load is also an estimate of particles per ml.
David Crowe Ted Stearn, proving that the particles are HIV is not important … if no such particles are found. If particles were found (which we don’t believe is ever the case in fresh blood, as opposed to cell culture) then the question is … what are they?

What is truly hilarious to me is seeing just how wildly off topic the comments became. They were discussing anal sex and lubes versus vaginal sex; Darwin and evolution; the words pee-pee, poo-poo and vomit are included…why? I can’t answer that; and of course, Cal Crilly Silly Willy showed up to include the “fact” that no one knows what is in human blood. And all the while our Persistent Pimp was futilely trying to keep the discussion on topic.

BTW, only one person said they would pay for this “service”.

As I wrote above, I will be writing a comprehensive post about why Viral Forensics is a scam and a fraud in the next week or so. But for now, enjoy the entertaining thread on the subject courtesy of ReThinking AIDS facebook.

Serious question. If you could get a series of electron microscope photos of your blood, with appropriate controls, probably showing you had no virus in your blood, would you pay $1000 plus or minus $500 for the set plus a report? Reply here or privately.

  • Mário Évora $1000?! 🙉🙊🙈
  • Richard Jannaccio I wouldn’t pay more than zero cents because such electron micrographs alone would conclusively prove zero.
  • David Etheredge I agree that it would prove nothing except that the virus was not present in that sample. It is highly likely, considering the difficulty that they have in producing electron micrographs of the virus. that it would even show up in 1 out of 1000 attempts. A better test would be to take the blood and apply it to a culture of CD-4 cells and see if they become infected.
  • Beldeu Singh Pls check out my new publication on ResearchGate on glycoproteins including p24.
  • Nilo De Roock Is that a freely accessible publication Beldeu Singh? If so, then provide a link.
  • Nikki Keersemaker yes!! It would be worth it to have a definitive result…even to check for a full spectrum of pathogens.I also wish the SNP chip DNA workup would become affordable to all…already widely used to check Equines why not humans?
  • Beldeu Singh Nilo, it’s on my Facebook. One more paper coming up within the week.
  • Eduardo Mateo Interesting… How would it help those who already don’t believe in the virus? More peace of mind? Legally? Would it override the other “tests”?
  • George C. O’Connor I would first have to be shown the indisputable dynamics by which this ever-mutating virus caused a pathological deficiency in my “immune system”. No one knows how many biologically inactive viruses have “infected” their CD4 cells with no ill effects.
    Once it was finally demonstrated how “HIV infection = CD4 rapid depletion” or “future rapid CD4 depletion” I would happily talk high prices to determine its presence.

    *However*, although this may seem counterintuitive to many if not most, I would not then, if found to be indisputably “infected with a ‘Human Immunodeficiency Virus'” decide upon which anti-retroviral combination would best suit me. That’s inviting disaster. A continuum of toxic chemicals? That’s not even done with anti-neoplastic chemotherapy with cancer! It’s not done with antibiotics used for a multiplicity of bacterial infections!

    But today we’re so goddamn stupid, crazy and, quite likely true for some, murderous that little trouble is found with “PrEP (Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis”) and that little trouble that is voiced is from those whose concern is that “safe sex” might be abandonned because of “overconfidence” with it and a rise in the “rate of infection with ‘HIV’ would be the result.

  • Peter Capainolo Use sera from hundreds of critters across taxa. I hypothesize that particles would be found that could be deemed “HIV”.
  • David Crowe This has been used in court before and is compelling evidence that a high viral load does not mean a lot of virus. I’d like people to think about this seriously. And, for people who think that finding nothing means nothing, it is possible to have a control sample using laboratory particles of the right size. If those can be detected it proves that HIV would also be detected if present.
  • Beldeu Singh David, they use PCR for measuring viral loads but the developer of this technology has clarified that it cannot be used to quantify viral loads. And, yes, researchers with integrity in science use the terminology HIV virus particles.
  • Jim Clayson If I was diagnosed hiv+ and you took out the ‘probably’ disclaimer, yes… definitely. I might even agree, with the disclaimer… depends on my finances at the time.
  • David Crowe Peter Capainolo, could you elaborate on your hypothesis, I’m not sure I understand.
  • Yvonne Bonde I think it takes many samples taken at different times over years to make a point. I don’t have 15k
  • David Crowe If there is a control sample showing particles, and a real sample not showing particles, why would you need multiple samples taken over a period of time?
  • Les Bell David, I would pay it, however the UK Courts refuse to acknowledge the validity of E.M. test results.
  • Peter Capainolo I mean simply that particles are present in the blood of all vertebrates at various levels and at various times. They are not “HIV” but some are likely close enough in their morphology to the “established” identification of “the probable cause of AIDS”. I suggest that this might skew results.
  • Yvonne Bonde Les Bell they don’t? Is there a link to the case?
  • Jesus Alvarez Peter Capainolo, all vertebrates have endogenous retroviruses, but none of them are very similar to the lentiviruses. In EM, the lentiviruses have a cone shaped core in the mature particles. Immature lentiviral particles look like all other retroviruses. Serology, or sequencing the genomes (or a part of them) in the particles is the way to determine exactly what they are.
  • David Crowe Peter Capainolo, the experience so far is that particles of the HIV size and shape cannot be detected in fresh blood, but can be detected when blood is spiked with particles of the expected size and shape, meaning that the techniques are not missing them.
  • David Crowe Les Bell, I’d also be very interested in info on the UK courts. Is this an absolute prohibition? One case? The background is very important.
  • Richard Jannaccio David Crowe, to equalize the probability of finding the alleged HIV, you would have to have the same concentration of particles in the control as the “HIV”– and how would you measure the concentration of a virus that you can’t even find to verify its existence? The particles should also have properties that convey similar visibility under the EM. Second, asGeorge C. O’Connor stated, you’d have to show that this “HIV” lived up to its name and really does cause Human Immunodeficiency. Third, all of the dynamics would be different if HIV was shown to be endogenous and/or non-transmissible. So you’d also have to prove that the HIV was exogenous and transmissible.
    I think the price tag just soared.
  • Eduardo Mateo Vitamin C “can suppress the symptoms of the disease and can markedly reduce the tendency for secondary infections”. What the hell is the “disease”? AIDS? Then what are the secondary infections? Crazy. AIDS is not a disease. “HIV infection” is not a disease either. WTF. There seems to be an obsession out there with disease and cures. The healthiest people I have known never took anything at all.
  • David Crowe Richard Jannaccio the spiked particles are spiked in particles per unit volume. And viral load is also an estimate of particles per ml.
  • George C. O’Connor Constantine Makaveli Maniatis, Given your description of the results of infection with “HIV” and such a low, if not incidental frequency of transmission the designation, “Human Immunodeficiency Virus” is entirely unwarranted and for it to be thought the pivotal causal in a “worldwide epidemic (“pandemic?”) of immuno-compromise” resulting in such an extraordinarily wide and diverse number of diseases makes it more absurd.
    It’s as if one said, “immunodeficiency from a variety of causes is a necessary condition for HIV to cause this pathological state known as “Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome, the acronym for which is ‘A.I.D.S.’.”
    Jesus Alvarez, I have no idea what you are trying to say about the morphology of lentiviruses especially since all retroviruses are lentiviruses (slow viruses — Latin, “lentis” for “slow” + “virus”). It just lacks all definition.
  • Richard Jannaccio Viral load is not an estimate of particles in blood, which is what the original post says will be examined by EM.
  • Peter Capainolo 1.”Immature lentiviral particles look like all other retroviruses” seems like a major problem to me. 2. I have my doubts about sequencing genomes. Lots of manipulation involved with primers etc.
  • Eduardo Mateo I wonder why is insertive penile vaginal intercourse 4 and insertive anal is 11??? Must be because asses are tighter? haha.. Throwing semen? I never heard of that sexual practice.
  • Peter Capainolo “HIV virus” lest we forget.
  • Eduardo Mateo They sure have come a long way, from a mere guess that the “virus”was sexually transmitted to such an exact level of transmission by various sexual procedures. Ha! I wonder when for the first time it was “proved” that it was sexually transmitted, but why do they not call it an STI?
  • Eduardo Mateo Or the sexual transmission aspect of it is like Karri Mullis looking for the paper that proves that HIV causes AIDS…. right? Nobody wants that credit on their shoulders. It’s all such a mystery…. everybody knows everything but nobody knows who proved that.. like a rumor or a gossip gone viral…
  • Peter Capainolo “Gone viral” haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  • Eduardo Mateo And Constantine, I was asking about insertive, not receptive….
  • Peter Capainolo Yes, everyone became a fucking expert overnight. High School guidance counselors, coaches etc. Just change the sign on the door.
  • Peter Capainolo Ummmm no, then you would need a tear on the pecker no?
  • Eduardo Mateo So.. Constantine Makaveli Maniatis.. You do believe in all this science that many of us call garbage ?
  • Peter Capainolo Of course Eduardo Mateo. Science must have determined that insertive and receptive are the same thing.
  • Eduardo Mateo So if I penetrate the same woman anally I have four timesmore chances to get the virus because it only has one layer? What about all the fluids from the vagina? I suppose it is a lot easier to accept and find explanations for everything we are told as opposed to questioning anything.
  • Eduardo Mateo Or perhaps the lubricating fluids in the vagina can’t carry the virus. Just like saliva, yet there’s the oral swab tests. We’re just supposed to believe all the nonsense they throw our way ! Most likely these statistics from the CDC are based on answers to surveys lol. Science.
  • Peter Capainolo Fluids, fluids and more fluids!
  • George C. O’Connor Constantine Makaveli Maniatis, The unanswered question remains: How did a *biologically inactive* retrovirus whose existence remains to be established, abruptly begin to infect males anally and in such impossibly large titres? We only know “it” by the antibody test which is so unreliable it can’t be trusted to measure anything.
  • Peter Capainolo How about tears, pee pee and poo poo itself? Don’t forget sweat. What about pre-ejaculate? Is vomit involved? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  • Peter Capainolo The hypothesis of Evolution answers all of that George C. O’Connorr. Chance mutation and natural selection of course. And a lot of mathematical improbability. It just “is”.
  • Peter Capainolo Long live the Messiah Charles Darwin.
  • Peter Capainolo It’s a fucking religion.
  • Les Bell Yvonne Bonde and David Crowe the NHS refuse to carry out EM tests so any “specialist Consultant” would testify that the use of such would be futile for use as evidence of presence/absence. All part of the Orthodox view which will also be carried by the Judge – they are unlikely to do anything but take a fellow professional at their word. Sadly. To date, I don’t believe anybody has challenged any of the flaws in the testing procedure/test kit disclaimers in a UK Court. All cases to date have been lost by the prosecution on a legal technicality only. OMSJ were paused to fight in a UK Court on behalf of a chap called Henry using all of their evidence & knowledge but unfortunately he died due to the stress of it all.
  • Ted Stearn I wonder how anyone would or would not know that the particles are HIV. I guess I don’t know enough about it. I thought that was never established, visually.
  • George C. O’Connor It never was, Ted. But hell knows what is used in “HIV studies” for specific isolates every time we hear of “a leap in progress” fed to the media to justify “further studies in this area are promising for possible newer, more effective drugs and possible vaccines in the fight to control or even cure ‘HIV/AIDS’!” (Always note the *spelling*, “HIV/AIDS”, it was intended to be *spelled* [?] that way for conceptual confusion.)
    Need I really point out why “HIV/AIDS news” is put before the public as if “HIV” could be retrieved and counted as though it were a little bug you could see under a 1600x, $500, $600 student-hobbyist microscope?
  • David Crowe Ted Stearn, proving that the particles are HIV is not important … if no such particles are found. If particles were found (which we don’t believe is ever the case in fresh blood, as opposed to cell culture) then the question is … what are they?
  • Les Bell Following on from this post, I have just formally requested an Electron Microscope test by the UK NHS. (5th request now) Previous requests were refused by the clinic giving the reason “We just never have a need for it but as you have an undetectable viral load, it would be pointless anyway” (I was on meds then but not now) Reading between the lines that tells me they know it would read negative. Anyway, I have resent the demand to the NHS’ Solicitor as all communication from me now is answered by their lawyers. On a separate note, the NHS & their lawyers were unable to find or supply me with a test kit disclaimer when I formally requested it – even keeping me waiting 9 months to then say “we don’t have any”. The bastards know exactly what we know!

Clark Baker Is Getting a Harsh Karmic Lesson. But Will He Ever Learn?

We have all heard the old sayings:

  • What goes around, comes around.
  • You reap what you sow.
  • Karma is a bitch.

No matter how it is stated, all these sayings amount to the same lesson: A person will eventually face the consequences of their own actions. 

This is now happening to Clark Baker in spades thanks to his fakeruptcy filing.

Remember 6 years ago, in 2009, when Clark Baker tried to bully and intimidate me by calling my elderly mother on the telephone? Mr. Baker told my mother some some crazy, bullshit story that he was going to sue me and would take away her house because she was partially responsible for my actions since I lived with her at the time.

When Clark Baker threatened my elderly mother his story was complete bullshit. But now that exact scenario could very well lead to Baker’s wife, Carol Dunn, being evicted from her home.

Now that Clark Baker has filed for bankruptcy, he has literally opened a Pandora’s Box that will have far reaching and severely detrimental consequences not only for Clark Baker, but also for many people who have ever associated with him. Dr. Murtagh has an amazing legal team that has refused to acquiesce to Baker’s legal circus. They are preparing to launch a legal shit-storm that will encompass many different players. I have no doubt that the reality with-whom these players have climbed into bed with will smack them upside the head and many people will have no option but to save themselves.

One of the first steps in a bankruptcy proceeding is a 341 Hearing. That hearing has many components. One of the major components allows all of Baker’s creditors to begin a fact finding mission. That meeting took place on August 5th. Dr. Murtagh’s attorneys chose not to attend the meeting, but they did not release their rights. They have prepared a plethora of questions that Baker must answer and supply documents to prove his answers. Dr. Murtagh’s legal team is also preparing a multi-pronged document that will include OMSJ, Viral Forensics and anyone who has ever been associated with Clark Baker. This legal team is doubling down on their already aggressive strategy to make Mr. Baker legally face up to his illegal behavior over the past decade.

Clark Baker thought he was being clever by filing bankruptcy to halt all proceedings and buy him some time. But what Baker actually did was provide a legal avenue that could very well lead to indictments, divorce and could land Clark Baker and some of his cohorts in adjoining jail cells.

OMSJ is not Closing. Clark Baker is not Retiring. New Day. New Lies.

Over a month ago, on June 19, I reported that Clark Baker was threatening to close OMSJ and retire. This information came from two sources. One was a personal email from Mr. Baker to a source that I will not name. Now Mr. Baker has made this public. Three weeks later, on July 12, Baker posted this somewhat strange item on the How Positive Are You? facebook page:

Clark Baker They destroyed OMSJ as well… Now that I know the US Gov’t KNOWS, there’s no point for me to fight any longer. This IS a war and they WILL crush you… not me – I’m retired from this fight. July 12 at 10:47am

Who knows what Baker is referring to when he writes “they destroyed OMSJ as well” and “now that the US Gov’t KNOWS” …but he sure sounds paranoid. It really does not matter. I believe it is all a ruse; a scam; a grift. Baker is flat out lying. He may be trying a last ditch effort to get donations to his pathetic money beg (which has failed to get even one more dollar) or he may just be trying to throw off the scent of mine and Dr. Murtagh’s attorneys in support of his fakeruptcy. Whatever his reasons for this new lie, one thing is definite: Baker has recruited others in the top tiers of the AIDS Denial ranks to stoke the fires.

First is it worth noting that Baker’s pronouncement had a direct impact on the sycophant AIDS Denialists:

But the most interesting responses have come from those who are really in the know: Celia Farber, Elizabeth Ely, Michael Terry and David Crowe.

Elizabeth Ely and Michael Terry both promised to “report” on the closing. First it was Ely who promised to provide details the day after Baker’s big pronouncement:

Elizabeth Ely

July 13 at 12:57pm Yes, I already know about the closing of OMSJ. . . . I will be posting a report on that soon (probably tomorrow), from where I sit here in Michigan, enjoying the good life. Chill, relax, pour yourself a cold something-or-other, hug someone you love and remember to be respectful on this page. Our work continues. Thanks and much love! xoBeth

Her promise to report information for her readers has gone unfulfilled two weeks later.

Then Micheal Terry made an equally hollow promise directly to Ms. Farber who opined on two different occasions at two different facebook pages. First at HPAY?:

Celia Ingrid Farber Does anybody have info?

Of course that query seems a bit disingenuous. Just one day before Ms. Farber seemed to have the answer:

Then five days later, Ms. Farber moves her query to the ReThinking AIDS facebook page:

Celia Ingrid Farber

July 19 at 9:39pm What is the status of OMSJ? Can anybody tell the story in a forthright manner? Just report it?

This is when Terry Michael takes the bait and makes his (so far) unfulfilled promise:

I believe that both Elizabeth Ely and Terry Michael spoke out of turn and that is why neither has fulfilled their promise to report on the closing of OMSJ. I would bet all the money I have made as a Big Pharma shill that Clark Baker contacted them both and told them to cool their jets and shut the hell up about providing details. He only wanted to create a fake publicity stunt. He has no intention of following through with such a ridiculous statement about closing OMSJ or retiring. That statement was only meant to supply credence to his fakeruptcy and garner some sympathy that might translate to donations. (It has not.)

I can supply proof to support my hypothesis. One is based on logic and the other is based on facts. Let’s first go with logic. It’s a lot more fun.

Logic: Celia Farber

Ms. Farber is a terrible actress. Her constant inquiries to find information about the closing of OMSJ on two different facebook pages is ridiculous in the extreme. Why would Ms. Farber be feigning ignorance and begging for information from others? She is supposedly an Investigative Journalist. She not only has years of experience she also has her own website, The Truth Barrier, and she is good friends with the horses’ mouth himself: Clark Baker. Ms. Farber could just call up Baker and interview him and provide a riveting expose herself. And yet she begged and pleaded for information on two different facebook pages. Give me a break!

Not only is Ms. Farber friends with Clark Baker, she is also friends with David Rasnick whom Elizabeth Ely flatly stated knows the most about the situation. Ely even responded as such to Ms. Farber 3 days before her hollow request for information on the RA facebook page:

In short, Farber could report on this herself and could get the most publicity for the atrocity of the faked forced closing of OMSJ. Farber has the connections from her days as a one-time legitimate reporter and the cache of being associated with SPIN magazine. She also has the ear of Gary Null and Robert Scott Bell who between them literally have tens of millions of listeners. But she is offending the intelligence of the RA and HPAY? community by feigning ignorance and begging for information from wannabes like Elizabeth Ely and hacks like Michael Terry.

Hell, maybe I am wrong. If you look at Farber’s facebook page she is constantly whining and moaning about the pathetic state of Investigative Journalism in America but doing nothing about it herself. Farber is just a pathetic example of a recalcitrant has-been and Baker is gleefully and unapologetically taking advantage of Farber’s weak emotional state.

Facts: David Crowe & Viral Forenscis

Interestingly the most honest and illuminating information came from David Crowe in the following exchange:

Mr. Crowe writes two very important and surprisingly honest details:

  1. “The work will continue under a different name.” Yes, I already knew that. The name is Viral Forensics. And the website is back up just as I predicted.
  2. “Well, where it’s coming from is a bit mysterious.” No, it’s not. I already explained that as well.

Clark Baker has no intentions of retiring and he will simply shift his scam from OMSJ to Viral Forensics. And I am so glad the site is back up so I can write a detailed report on that shell game soon. If you have any doubt that Viral Forensics is OMSJ reincarnated, then check out the website. OMSJ is all over the Viral Forensics website. The Viral Forensics logo can be found on the OMSJ website. And the mailing address for each entity is the same:

PO BOX 1507

Viral Forensics Contact:

Mailing Address:
Viral Forensics LLC
PO Box 1507
Studio City, CA 91614-0507

To sum this all up: Clark Baker is lying about OMSJ closing. Clark Baker is lying about retiring. Celia Farber, Elizabeth Ely, Terry Michael, David Rasnick and David Crowe are all in on the lie. I have to wonder how those who follow ReThinking AIDS and those who support the dissident “theory” feel about being lied to and manipulated about this for the past couple of weeks by their leaders? How can they trust these people again?

OMSJ: An Impotent Organization

I am not even sure why Clark Baker is making such a big deal about this in the first place. After all, OMSJ has never done anything meaningful or substantial. On the “Legal Notices” section of the OMSJ website you will find this statement:

The Office of Medical & Scientific Justice is a 501(c)(3) public benefit corporation, engaged in the mission of protecting and defending the integrity of the medical and scientific community by providing CONFIDENTIAL investigative resources to the victims and witnesses of medical and scientific corruption.

This statement is important for two reasons:

  • First of all, a 501(c)(3) is a non-profit designation. And Mr. Baker has been profiting on the few services he actually provides. He charged several thousand dollars for his work with the HIV Innocence Group. He also charged $1,500.00 for his Operation Letterhead. His 501(c)(3) non-profit designation will soon be taken from him and Baker will be responsible for thousands of dollars in fines.
  • Secondly, Mr. Baker falsely claims that his services are CONFIDENTIAL (emphasis Baker). Just one look at the only service that Baker truly provided, HIV Innocence Group, and it is obvious that nothing Baker does is CONFIDENTIAL.

One look at the “Services” section of the OMSJ website and you will see that Baker only offers three services:

1. The HIV Innocence Group.

That organization is dead and has been for almost two years. And as I detailed with this summary, most of Baker’s claimed successes were either outright exaggerations or blatant lies.

2. Operation Letterhead.

Here is the description on the OMSJ site:

Operation Letterhead is a fee-based service that helps patients secure second opinions about their infectious disease diagnosis. 

In actuality it is a series of letters to the client’s physician challenging their diagnosis that will make the client/patient come across as delusional. Here is a more complete description of the “service” also found on the OMSJ site:

For a flat service fee of $1500, OMSJ will prepare customized correspondence for patients whose questions about their own testing, diagnosis and treatment remain unanswered.  OMSJ’s consultants will review your case and prepare a series of carefully written letters for our clients.

And then when you click on the Terms and Conditions section at the OMSJ site for Operation Letterhead, you will find this amazingly contradictory statement:

This Consulting Agreement (the “Agreement”) is entered into TODAY  between the APPLICANT (you) and Office of Medical and Scientific Justice, a 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation, having its principal offices at Irvine, California.

Right there Baker tells his perspective “client” that his organization is a Non-Profit but he is still going to charge them $1,500.00 for this service. WTF? I can’t make this shit up!

3. Medical, Scientific or Academic Retaliation

This one is a non-starter. I have no info on this, but I highly doubt that anyone in such a predicament would hire a man who has devoted the last decade of his life to the harassment of just such a person: Dr. James Murtagh. That’s right. Dr. Murtagh came to Baker’s attention as a whistle blower at Emory University. The hypocrisy of this one is absolutely mind boggling.

And Clark Baker knows he is full of shit and that OMSJ is just a vanity project whose only real objective is to service his overblown ego. Baker admitted as much one year ago on the OMSJ facebook page:

OMSJ has upgraded our website to serve more as an aggregate (like Drudge Report), delivering hourly updates on stories related to medical and scientific corruption. For timely reports about medical and scientific corruption, visit our website.

OMSJ offers no real services and Baker admitted as much with the above “change” in his website. Baker also threw in the towel one year ago when he changed his site to a revenue generating clickbait site. Clark Baker is nothing but a pathetic liar with no real skill set and should not be pitied. He should be punished for perpetrating such an obscene fraud on the general public and having the audacity to profit from other peoples’ misery.


Fear and Desperation in Los Angeles: Clark Baker’s Life & Lies are Crumbling

The saga of Clark Baker’s very bad behavior is about to come to an abrupt halt and it will not be pretty for Mr. Baker.  About a week ago Baker filed bankruptcy to put an immediate stop to the two lawsuits that are crashing down on him. Baker sees the writing on the wall and filing bankruptcy is the final, desperate act of a drowning man. This move will only temporarily halt all proceedings. My lawsuit ended many months ago, but my attorneys are still seeking $58K in fees. But that is a fraction of the sum Baker will have to pay Dr. Murtagh. Baker’s main problem is trying to defend himself against Dr. Murtagh when his conduct is indefensible.

Baker has had a series of rulings against him as well as two different law firms bail out on him. The last firm begged the judge to let them out of the case a mere two weeks after agreeing to represent Mr. Baker. Ironically the firm is that of Kevin McDermott, the attorney who prevailed in the appeal of Sgt. David Gutierrez. The only scenario I can see for this sudden departure is that Mr. Baker was not honest with his new attorneys.  Mr. Baker is an uncontrollable client. He has not complied with one ruling against him nor has he paid the $60K in attorney fees he was ordered to pay two months ago. And there is still the matter of the Sanctions which stem from Mr. Baker sending out fraudulent subpoenas.

I was going to write a lengthy post detailing all the rulings and how Baker has made a mockery of the courts and the justice system in both cases and why bankruptcy protection will ultimately fail. But I decided that would get in the way of telling the real story that needs to be told: The story of how Clark Baker got himself into this horrible mess.

Almost 10 years ago Clark Baker and Dr. Murtagh crossed paths. Most people know some of the story about Farber and Deusberg and The Clean Hands Award and The Semmelweiss Society. The details and specifics of why the two men had differing opinions and why they disliked each other are basically irrelevant. The behavior that Clark Baker has engaged in over the past decade would only be warranted if Dr. Murtagh had beaten up Baker’s parents or raped his daughter or some such heinous act. But that is not the case. The only thing I can think of to explain the decade long, systematic, persistent, relentless and uncontrollable quest to ruin Dr. Murtagh’s personal and professional life is that Clark Baker may be mentally unstable.  I am not a psychologist and I am not making a diagnosis here, but I can think of no other explanation. No rational person who is mentally stable and living a happy, productive and worthwhile life would go to the extreme lengths that Mr. Baker has over the past decade.

This is only my opinion. I will lay out the facts and let the readers decide for themselves. You can follow these facts in Dr. Murtagh’s Third Amended Complaint for yourself.

The Websites

As I have reported before, Clark Baker put up a website with the express purpose of interfering with Dr. Murtagh’s employment. The website was Here is the exact wording from the Welcome Page of that site:

WELCOME to the unofficial page of James J. Murtagh, MD.  Its purpose is not to defame the former Emory University professor, but to provide hospitals and “locum tenens” staffing agencies easy access to publicly-available court documents about Dr. Murtagh’s ongoing conduct and behavior.  Visitors are encouraged to verify the authenticity of all documents with the appropriate judicial jurisdictions before making any hiring decisions based upon these court records.

That is completely unambiguous and clearly shows the exact nature of this (and future) websites.

We all know that with the advent of Google, every employer now “googles” the name of potential employees. Not only did Clark Baker provide information expressly intended to defame Dr. Murtagh in this site, Mr. Baker could also see and track each and every person/company and IP address of whomever clicked on his site. Again, all this information is included in the link above to the Third Amended Complaint. When Mr. Baker would see that a specific employer was looking at his site, Mr. Baker would contact that employer either on the phone, in writing or both. This went on for years. Dr. Murtagh lost job, after job, after job. Not because there was any information in the site that made Dr. Murtagh a potentially bad employee, but the employer (hospitals) did not want any negative attention whatsoever. I know this from personal experience.

Do not forget, Clark Baker called my employer, Baylor Healthcare System, 6 times, every 6 months, like clockwork when I wrote Dissidents4Dumbees. Although Human Resources acknowledged to me that every time HR and IT researched the specific complaint they found absolutely nothing that I had done wrong. I had done nothing to disgrace the hospital, break their rules or break the law. But they expended many man-hours researching each complaint. And although they knew I was not at fault, they were incredibly tired of wasting time, man-hours, resources and most importantly, money, following up on these bogus complaints. (I am sure that Mr. Baker never gave a single thought about the precious time wasted by many people because he is a selfish, self-centered egomaniac who thinks no one’s time is important but his.) Baylor ultimately gave me a choice: end the blog and your First Amendment Rights, or we will fire you. Although I had a great and winnable lawsuit against Baylor for this ultimatum, I acquiesced and deleted my blog. So I personally know the stress and hardship of this type of bogus harassment.

Once Dr. Murtagh finally reached his breaking point, he filed arbitration against Clark Baker for the defamatory site. Baker lost overwhelmingly and the verdict was that he must take down the site because he was breaking the law. Baker complied with the letter of the law, but not the spirit of the law. Baker put up a mirror site, I reported on that new mirror-site. After reading my report on this new development, Baker changed the url address to Baker also put up a site called with his partner-in-crime, attorney David Pardo. That site also contained the same defamatory information.

Within the last month or so a new website has appeared (and is still active):

This is the exact url that the WIPO arbitration panel said Mr. Baker must take down, just with the addition of “wordpress” in the address.

Not only has Clark Baker given-the-finger to the arbitration body many times, he is blatantly breaking his oath to the licensing agency of the California Private Investigators. But this is nothing new in that regard. All of Baker’s bad behavior in targeting and harassing Dr. Murtagh’s employment (as well as mine) is also in direct conflict with his sworn oath as a licensed Private Investigator.

Cyber Stalking, Actual Stalking, Pinging & Spoofing

All of the above information about Clark Baker tracking IP addresses via his unlawful websites constitutes cyber-stalking and it is also in direct violation of his oath as a licensed California Private Investigator. But all of this insane behavior does not stop there. Clark Baker actually went to Atlanta, GA., crossing state lines, to stalk Dr. Murtagh’s girlfriend. How does physically stalking an actual female sit with the readers’ conscious? Can you imagine someone stalking your girlfriend, wife, sister, mother or grandmother? This is nothing out of the ordinary for Clark Baker.

I also have direct, personal experience with this. Clark Baker called my then 65 year old mother on the phone to scare, intimidate and harass her. Mr. Baker told my mother that he was going to sue me and in the process he was going to take her house away from her. He also told her that from his experience as an ex-officer with the LAPD, he could tell that I was psychotic and would kill her in her sleep. You can see that in my own mother’s Declaration in my lawsuit.

Mr. Baker has also used the illegal tactics of “pinging” Dr. Murtagh’s cell phone. That is illegal pursuant to the Telephone Records and Privacy Protection Act of 2006. The Third Amended Complaint provides proof of Mr. Baker bragging about “pinging” Dr. Murtagh’s cell phone to find his location.

Mr. Baker would also employ the illegal tactic of “spoofing” to find Dr. Murtagh’s location. There is proof of this as well in the Third Amended Complaint and it all starts on the paragraph marked “30”. Mr. Baker used me to spoof Dr. Murtagh by changing the “g” in my email address to a “q”. Very clever indeed because who would notice such a thing? I know I did not notice it when I first saw it. It had to be brought to my attention.

Are you convinced, dear reader, that Clark Baker is a deceptive liar with questionable mental health? Keep in mind that this went on for almost 10 years. And it was not just every once in a while for twisted kicks. Mr. Baker engaged in this behavior on a daily basis. God knows how much time he spent creating his websites and adding information and checking to see which employers were reading the sites and then contacting those employers. He wrote letters. He called them on the phone. What kind of sick and twisted individual does that?

And now that his fun and games should be over he will not even man up and stop his behavior. He flaunts rulings by creating mirror sites: Not one. Not two. Not three but at least four new websites. And he has yet to cough up the $60K that a California judge ordered him to pay almost two months ago.

And do not forget that much of his behavior over the past decade has been illegal. And do not forget that he is a licensed Private Investigator and ex-cop who is flagrantly breaking the law and not living up to his sworn oath as a PI.

And even during the lawsuit Mr. Baker sent out fraudulent subpoenas to many different individuals and companies. That is why he was sanctioned.

I could go on. But what is the point? If you, dear reader, are still a supporter of Clark Baker perhaps you could get a groupon for a psychiatrist. Baker would need it. After all, he did just file for bankruptcy. Or perhaps Dr. Seth Kalichman would be willing to treat you.

BTW, Baker’s bankruptcy is also a lie. (I am now calling it his FAKEruptcy). As I pointed out recently, his wife is worth $220,000,000.00. But the original link has disappeared since Mr. Baker filed his fakerupcty. It looks like Baker is trying to hide his assets from the bankruptcy court. Luckily the Wayback Machine still has it.

And Baker lives in a mansion worth $1.6 Million.

And Baker also started a new business, Viral Forensics. I also reported on that recently. Strangely that website has also disappeared for now. Another deceptive (and futile) attempt by Mr. Baker to hide his assets and income.

And one week after filing fakeruptcy Baker not only took a very expensive vacation to a spa that cost close to $2,000 per night at Amangiri. He also had the stupidity audacity to flaunt it on facebook:

Clark Baker

July 2 at 12:36pm ·

Nice time for a road trip…— at Amangiri.
Clark Baker's photo.

The lies, deception, manipulation, duplicity and law breaking all seem to continue no matter what is happening in Mr. Baker’s life. I wonder if he has a problem?

Seeking Victims of AIDS Denial via Clark Baker, OMSJ, HIV Innocence Group & ReThinking AIDS

I have been contacted by several people who came to me of their own volition who have had negative experiences with Clark Baker and his dubious organizations. One person almost died and others have been manipulated into not taking their HIV medications. We are getting affidavits to this effect. If you have had any negative experience, please contact me by leaving a comment and I will get back to you. I will NOT post your comments. If you peruse this blog, will you see that I have never posted comments. I learned with my previous blog that publishing comments just detracts from the facts and purpose of this blog. And that purpose is to provide the public with verifiable facts and information about the dubious intent of Clark Baker, OMSJ, HIV Innocence Group and the deleterious effects of AIDS Denial.

Clark Baker’s New EM Lab, Viral Forensics, Is Magic; It Disappeared

In my previous post I mentioned that Mr. Baker had just opened a laboratory to supposedly analyze blood with an Electron Microscope. I even supplied a link to his website for the lab he named Viral Forensics. Here is what you get now when you click that link or search for his site:

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information or contact us as soon as possible.

I am very sad that the website is gone. It was very slick and filled with a plethora of factually ridiculous information for me to analyze, deconstruct and provide the general public with the truth. I had even sent them a message via their “contact us” page asking for a list of their services and the associated fees. Alas, they never sent me the information. I guess I should not have used my real name and email address.

But I am quite certain the website will return. It is only down because of Baker’s lawsuit with Dr. Murtagh where Baker is being annihilated and facing a Contempt of Court ruling. It is down because a judge had ordered Mr. Baker to take down his defamatory website about Dr. Murtagh. If you remember, the original site was Mr. Baker did take that site down but very quickly re-posted the exact information, layout and look of the original site under When I wrote a post detailing the deception (and the despicable “Psycho” name) Baker then changed the name again to

That is why Viral Forensics is now down. That website was hosted by the MurtaghMDTruth site which is now part of a potential Contempt of Court ruling against Mr. Baker. When you go to what was the Viral Forensics website, this is now the url you get:

My bet is that Mr. Baker’s associates in the Viral Forensics scheme lab are covering themselves legally. Because the MurtaghMDTruth is part of a possible Contempt of Court ruling which could levy a heavy penalty, no one wants Baker’s stench of failure on them. It is becoming a pattern with people scurrying away from Mr. Baker:

  1. The first law firm was sanctioned and they are no longer Baker’s attorneys.
  2. The second set of attorneys for Mr. Baker asked a judge to let them out of their affiliation with Mr. Baker only weeks after agreeing to represent him.
  3. Only two people donated to his GoFundMe page.
  4. Now those associated with Baker in Viral Forensics must be having second thoughts.

Who are the people associated with Baker and Viral Forensics? While the site was still up I noticed that none other than David Rasnick had written a white paper specifically for the website:

“…white papers are marketing publications that serve to explain the technology used in a product.”

That white paper was more marketing than explanation, for sure. The only citations provided were by other AIDS Denialists such as Henry Bauer and Nancy Banks and it only served to tear down all other viral diagnostic methodologies such as flow cytometry, PCR, phylogentics and others.

Attorney D. David Steele is also associated with Viral Forensics. If you click this link you will find:

File Number: 201511110107
Filing State: California (CA)
Domestic State: Delaware (DE)
Filing Status: Active
Filing Date: April 13, 2015
Company Age: 2 Months
Registered Agent: David Steele
1300 Clay St Ste 800
Oakland, CA 94612
Principal Address: 820 Heinz Ave
Berkeley, CA 94710

For now Viral Forensics is gone. When it comes back I can’t wait to write a post factually detailing all the inconsistencies, duplicity and downright crazy included in that site.