It was with great reluctance and trepidation that I agreed to be interviewed by Elizabeth Ely for her podcast, How Positive Are You? Remember, this is the woman who in June of 2014 had a very emotional public meltdown because two people made a personal healthcare decision for themselves and their newborn baby. Her histrionics were so over the top and disturbing that a former dissident felt the need to discuss it.

Because of some recent outrageous and untrue comments she made about me, I requested that she have me on her show (where she had made the untrue statements) so we could clear this up. When she surprisingly invited me on, I made it clear that I only wanted to find common ground. I told her I thought it would be in the best interests of both dissidents and orthodox alike to stop perpetuating the myth that the other side were monsters and animals: I made it clear that we should acknowledge our common humanity.

Well, it went over like a fart in a space suit.

After about 40 minutes that slowly devolved into Ms. Ely going off topic and putting words in my mouth, she finally ripped off her mask to reveal her true self. And it was not pretty. As a matter of fact, she should be embarrassed and ashamed.

Ms. Ely called me a sociopath several times and doubled down on her horrendous accusation. She also said that my first blog, Dissidents4Dumbees, was solely a vehicle to disparage a dead woman and her dead baby; meaning Christine Maggiore and Eliza Jane Scovill.

At first I laughed at her ridiculous accusation that I was a sociopath. But after she continued with that assertion, doubled down and then said that completely horrendous lie about Christine Maggiore and EJ, I hung up on her.

Elizabeth Ely is one of the most prominent and vocal of the dissident group. How can anyone take a group seriously with such an emotionally unhinged and soulless person representing them?